Aeneid
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| 05/05/2008 1:19 PM |
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| I saw an ad in the UT that townhomes at the Electra start at 390 K something. I thought it was a typo. I stopped by the sales and asked for the price sheet-it's true that townhomes start at 390K something. I wanted to see the floor plan by taking a look at the actual unit but they would not show me unless I give them 24 hour notice.
Anyway, I thought the price is reasonably attractive as it comes out to be under $400/sqf. Anyone has seen townhome floor plans. Something must be funny about the floor plan for them to be so cheap, relatively.
If anyone has seen the actual, please let me know what you think. |
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rentingman
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| 05/05/2008 1:41 PM |
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| Just a couple things. Splitting up 1,000 sq ft between two floors seems like it would be really small. The other issue is having a ground floor entrance in that neighborhood. There are a lot of homeless near the rail station. |
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Aeneid
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| 05/05/2008 2:11 PM |
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| Yeah, I realize that town homes are two levels. I brought that point up to the secretary at the sales office. There was no salesperson there. The secretary said that she cannot give me much information. She said, it could be a "flat" as it is 900 something square feet. If you split this into two floors, would be very bad-not very functional. |
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stella
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| 05/05/2008 2:19 PM |
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| Sounds like a very cool weekend place but might be hard to live in full time, especially for two people. |
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Aeneid
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| 05/05/2008 6:36 PM |
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Stella,
I think there are other issues with the place. 1/ probably just one parking space. We need two spaces. 2/ 1000 sf but split into two levels. If it is 1000 sf single level, I am happy with that. I grew up in the suburb in OC and there was lots of space there. However, I stayed in Paris for awhile, I saw people could survive with very limited space. My apt there was about 400 sf. It was tight but doable and that was a luxury for most people. People (single) actually live in 200 sf place in Paris. I kid you not. For me, having lots of space means lots of cleaning and tendency to collect useless stuffs. I am trying to have space for what I truly need. Have you seen things people collect in their garages? Some pretty amazing stuffs. I think we American like to be surrounded by material things to feel comfortable. |
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Boondoggler
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| 05/06/2008 7:21 AM |
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| Aeneid - I couldn't agree more. I have just spent a backbreaking day clearing out closets in my Carmel Valley home. I have made many trips to Goodwill, sold stuff on Craigslist, given a ton of things away, and finally taken over a truckload of stuff to the dump. My garage wasn't even full as we have parked two cars in it all the time, but the junk just builds up. I lived in Europe and there was nothing like the need to have so much expensive junk. I am looking forward to living in a smaller space where possessions don't rule my life. |
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RottedOak
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| 05/06/2008 9:45 AM |
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I'm continually amazed at the way some people think life is impossible under the conditions in which billions of people actually live. Even in the US, there are lots of people who would consider 1000 square feet, even split across two levels, to be perfectly acceptable for two people (or even more). Many two-bedroom apartments are 900 sq ft or less, so even with some loss of livable space due to the two-floor design, a 1000 sq ft of townhouse should be practical. Yes, that's right, a couple could actually squeeze themselves into a living space the size of an ordinary two-bedroom apartment! But of course I understand that some people have a desperate, overwhelming need for lots of space. I mean, some people really need a three-car garage to hold their two Hummers and 50 boxes of crap that they open once every three years. And if they even suspect that they might someday have a child, then they would immediately need a four-bedroom house with an acre of land, so that that the fetus could run and play the instant it is conceived. Anything less would cause claustrophobia.
All sarcasm aside, I'm absolutely for everyone having a place that suits their lifestyle (assuming they can afford it). But too many people have a remarkably exaggerated idea of what they "need".
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Brian
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| 05/06/2008 9:49 AM |
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Aeneid and Boondoggler, I agree with both of you guys about useless stuff.
Biut downsizing should cost less, not more. The problem with downtown condos is that they are more expensive than single family houses. That's pretty lopsided in my view.
Small and green should be cheaper so we can work less and enjoy more. Seems like we're asked to pay a hefty premium to do the right thing. That ain't gonna work.
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Aeneid
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| 05/07/2008 8:03 AM |
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"Each into his own", I suppose. I would not want to pass any judgement about anyone's life style. We are kind of looking for a place, we recently visited San Miguel development in Chula Vista area. Those houses over there are so large. The smallest we saw was 3000 plus sqf. I did not feel those would be cozy. Even if we were to have two kids, those places would be too large. I suppose a 3000 sqf house is not so bad if they were of higher quality. After living in Paris and Hamburg for awhile, where most of the apt/condos are concrete, I appreciate concrete construction much more than those stucco boxes. One of the reasons I prefer downtown is that we might be able to afford a concrete construction condo. I literally felt a bit creepy in those big stucco model homes. Anyway, I digress.
Brian, do think it is possible to get a 2/2 (1200-1600 sqf) for 500K in the marina district. Am I dreaming? |
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Brian
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| 05/07/2008 10:06 AM |
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Posted By Aeneid on 05/07/2008 8:03 AM
Brian, do think it is possible to get a 2/2 (1200-1600 sqf) for 500K in the marina district. Am I dreaming?
You're not dreaming... Be patient and you'll be rewarded.
I predict downtown prices will go back to the year 2000 (that's right, before most of those towers were built). Either that, or a long, long, long period of stagnation.
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| 05/07/2008 10:18 AM |
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The other issue with being on the ground floor there - I don't care if you have triple paned windows - you're going to hear the trains rolling by. It is VERY loud when the freight trains honk their horns at say 2am. The trolley rolls right by as well.
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Aeneid
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| 05/07/2008 9:48 PM |
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| Yeah I have thought about the noise issue. Not very nice! |
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