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grizwold
Posts:5

09/05/2008 3:30 PM Alert 
Has anyone had an artist studio (or any 500+ sq/ft detached workshop-like structure) built on their residential property? Other than the requisite permits, I would love to know about your experiences. Anything related to budget, materials, time frame, recommendations on contractors/skilled tradesmen, etc. would be greatly appreciated. I just received notice that my offer was accepted on a bank owned home and I am now faced with assessing the additional costs related to retrofitting the home into something in tune with my career/lifestyle.
LoonyQT
Posts:894

09/05/2008 3:56 PM Alert 
Congrats grizwold on your purchase. How did you structure your offer to have it accepted by the bank?
grizwold
Posts:5

09/05/2008 5:33 PM Alert 
We made a full priced offer with 20% down, but asked the bank to pay closing costs and all wood destroying pest improvements. This was easily the tenth offer my wife and I made on a home, though only the third REO. Sdlookup's forum has been invaluable in keeping us levelheaded throughout the process!
LoonyQT
Posts:894

09/05/2008 8:15 PM Alert 
Wow - have you been using the same realtor throughout this process or making offers some other way?

Good for you - I hope you have a home you love.
artist
Posts:81

09/05/2008 10:01 PM Alert 
Congrat Grizwold
I too needed an Art studio built on my property when I got it awhile back. You only stated your small end size and did not mention what kind of enviromental controlls you needed. The easiest way I found was to go with an aluminum prefab building. I needed big and went for a 50x100 one I found from a company online for sale. I have seen them listed really cheap or free, on Craigslist. Look in the farm and garden area. The building and the slab and some other details cost me $50K. I did build it myself. It got me started and I have since done alot of interior work. You can go smaller for alot less. You do by pass alot of building BS that you will have to go thru if you build a conventional building as it is under different building codes. A couple of the wineries in Temecula use them as their tasting rooms. So you might go out and sample a few wines and get a few ideas about how nice they can be inside.

While I have not been in one I have seen a few articles about converting cargo containers to live and studio spaces. The pics looked nice. I am sorry I do not have a link but you can google it and find what you need I am sure.

Hope you love your new place.
grizwold
Posts:5

09/06/2008 1:19 PM Alert 
Thanks Artist! I have seen contemporary architects use recycled shipping containers, but I have to think they would be as costly as a conventional detached structure would be. Do you have photos of your studio that you could send me? My email is brian (at) cphomedecor.com.
Which online company did you buy your unit from? Didn't you still need to deal with "building BS" regarding electrical, water/sewer, and maybe heating/cooling?

In 2006 I did a residency in Holland and the gallery set me up in this place:
http://livemodern.com/designblogs/6c313cf046d2c98d7557a97344ab8175

At this point, I am leaning toward something along these lines, but I want to wait to see if I can get some more feedback. . .
mschiap
Posts:12

09/06/2008 2:08 PM Alert 
another way to save on permitting costs is to designate the art studio a "garage", as the permit costs are lower for non-living spaces. You can have electricity, I think a sink is OK, but no toilet. if he property is outside SD city limits, go to the county building dept on Rufin Rd and as them for details.
Brian
Posts:2210

09/06/2008 2:14 PM Alert 
I also depends on the lot and size. There are also setback requirements.
Smith
Posts:44

09/07/2008 11:49 PM Alert 
This would seem fairly straightforward as Ive seen many homes that have a separate guest or even pool house in the back, especially if you run a space heater in the winter and no AC in summer.
twocents
Posts:78

10/15/2008 4:41 PM Alert 
I can't comment on any of the zoning issues you may run into, but as far as pre-fab designs pick up an issue of dwell magazine and look through their ads. metroshed is one i can think of off the top of my head
wilson
Posts:541

10/15/2008 7:12 PM Alert 
You are exceedingly stooopid if you don't get the required permits, zoning approvals, and required inspoections.
If you don't you could be flushing all your improvement dollars down the toilet. I'm on my local variance board and ignorance or willful disregard for zoning standards will guarantee you significant problems.
grizwold
Posts:5

10/15/2008 7:58 PM Alert 
And you are exceedingly tactful...
UnsureBuyer
Posts:211

10/16/2008 12:51 AM Alert 
Hey griz, there are some "storage" sheds that you're able to add with no permits. Check out this local builder... http://www.ecoscapeoutdoor.com

Don't mind Wilson, he's our lovable ol' curmudgeon.
Brian
Posts:2210

10/16/2008 8:34 AM Alert 
Cool house. I wish more houses in CA were like this.

High
Concepts and Green

jpinpb
Posts:1450

10/16/2008 8:48 AM Alert 
Very cool house.
twocents
Posts:78

10/16/2008 3:57 PM Alert 
Helpful post Wilson!
There's also a place on PCH in Encinitas, beside Panikin's coffee, which has pre-fab sheds for sale.
wilson
Posts:541

10/16/2008 6:37 PM Alert 
Sheds can also have to meet setback requirements if they are above a certain size, at least in my community. It is also common sense. If a fire starts on one property, you want some minimum distance between buildings so it doesn't as easily spread to another structure on the same property or to a neighboring property.
You're welcome.
twocents
Posts:78

10/16/2008 8:23 PM Alert 
Wilson, you still have not really contributed and answer to griz's questions as to the experiences EXCLUDING permit issues.

I think you are going to have to buy griz dinner after you buy appetizers for me and a fat entree for Brian. Save up those pennies!
wilson
Posts:541

10/16/2008 8:55 PM Alert 
Yes, Griz glossed over the permits and others intimated they are ways to get around permits. So I realize I have not answered his question, but knowing all the applicable standards and getting all the permits is so important I could not resist.

By the way, big party at my 1-bedroom at the Grande the night I close at $295k!!!!!!!! We can get sloshed after dinner.
jakob
Posts:473

10/16/2008 9:20 PM Alert 
I'm in for drinking. :)
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