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14160 Bryce Pt


Poway, CA  92064
General Info
Location:  Poway > Poway
Zoning:  Single Family Residential
Use:  Single Family Residential
Parcel Number:  2772022400
Square Feet:  n/a
Bedrooms:  n/a
Bathrooms:  n/a
Tax Assesment
Land Value:  $1,448,400
Improvement Value:  $2,040,000
Net Value:  $3,488,400
Est Property Tax:  $43,605
Sales History
DatePriceHeldReturnAnnual
07/01/2008$2,500,0003y 1m-27%-10%
05/16/2005$3,420,0003y 5m375%57%
12/03/2001$720,000n/a-   -   
Nearby Properties
AddressSales DatePrice
18310 Old Coach Way3/2/2007$1,060,000
18520 Old Coach Way5/3/2000$1,100,000
14165 Bryce Pt11/9/2001$840,000
14155 Bryce Pt8/17/2006$4,450,000
14150 Bryce Pt9/12/2003$683,000
14105-09 Biscayne Pln/an/a
14395 Cypress Pt8/18/2006$4,250,000
14415 Cypress Pt8/15/2001$915,000
14425 Cypress Pt4/5/2001$1,000,000
14445 Cypress Pt1/30/2002$1,300,000
Nearby Listings For Sale
AddressPrice
18520 Old Coach Dr$5,995,000   
14115 Biscayne Pl$6,875,000   
14105 Biscayne Pl$15,499,000   
18515 Old Coach Way$3,900,000 to $4,495,876   
14460 Cheyenne Trl$2,499,995   
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 Discussion

how low can you go? 10/7/2007 4:12:09 PMReply

605k off previous 05 sale price including 6% transaction costs. I thought the high end was weathering the storm well, but apparently not.

I wonder what similar properties will bottom out at?
 
Brian 2/23/2008 8:57:02 PMReply

14160 BRYCE POINT, Poway, CA 92064
4 beds, 5.5 baths, 7,716 sq ft on 1.3 acres
05/2005: purchased for $3.42 million
06/2007: listed on MLS for $3.295 million
Price Reduced: 08/23/07 — $3,295,000 to $2,995,000
Price Reduced: 01/08/08 — $2,995,000 to $2,895,000
Price Increased: 01/10/08 — $2,895,000 to $2,995,000
Price Reduced: 01/10/08 — $2,995,000 to $2,895,000
02/04/2008: NOD filed.
02/21/2008: 247 days on market and over $500,000 discount from almost 3 years ago and still no sale.
 
Brian 2/23/2008 9:08:30 PMReply

December 2007 installment of taxes of $21,220.26 now defaulted.
 
EP 2/23/2008 9:11:27 PMReply

This house was mentioned over on a real estate bubble blog several days ago (I won't link to it at the moment, and you'll soon understand why). The blog author detailed the circumstances of this listing (including the publicly available NOD information kindly posted by Brian above). Today, the author was forced to remove his posting because the home owner's attorney has threatened legal action for posting this information. And just when you thought you'd seen everything, the post-bubble world gets a bit nastier...
 
Brian 2/24/2008 12:20:32 AMReply

For more interesting details, just google the address with the word "bubble"
 
JSixpack 2/24/2008 11:30:16 PMReply

Or... You could lease it for $22,000... Is that per month? Yikes!

http://www.dreamhomesmagazine.com/Home131354.html

Is it just me, or does that lease amount look kinda similar to the 2007 tax bill? Or is that the actual debt carry cost per month? OUCH!

Oh yeah, don't forget the quoted $500 monthly HOA fee on your spreadsheets folks!
 
jpinpb 2/25/2008 7:14:57 AMReply

That is such BS. How can you be sued for posting a public record? That is so wrong, besides the free speech part. It is a public record. All you're doing is typing the information on a site. Anyone can go to county and get it. That really angers me that an attorney would threaten lawsuit. ACLU should get in on this.
 
Brian 2/25/2008 10:12:11 PMReply

People who have money (even dwindling reserves of cash) and power think they can intimidate. I'm sure people who got high during the boom have not learned humility yet. Only foreclosure can bring them back down to earth.

It would have worked better if this property owner had written OCrenter and said "Yes, I'm facing financing problems; I'm trying to work things out; my business is not doing great and I don't need anymore publicity. Please be nice and remove the post. I would appreciate it and I'll make $100 contribution to your blog. Keep up the good work."

I'm sure OCrenter, the nice guy that he is, would have complied.

But the guy chose to pay the attorneys instead (you can be sure that the lawyers fees will mount to the thousands). Certain executives know it's better to hire a public relations firm. Some other executives go with hired legals guns and shoot threats and intimidation. What method do you think works better?

 
Brian 2/25/2008 10:24:46 PMReply

Nothing to do with this house, but, in general, I would not lease a house with an NOD. There's a good chance the owner pockets the rent and doesn't make the mortgage payments. When the place gets foreclosed, the renter is on the street without a lease.
 
Brian 4/24/2008 9:57:55 AMReply

Second installment of taxes have been defaulted. Total due $42,450.52.

This house is now off the MLS. How are they going to pay-off the debts without selling the house?

NOD was filed 2/4/2008.... 90 days later -> NOT .... 21 days later -> Trustee's Sale.

 
buyer08 4/24/2008 1:07:02 PMReply

That attorney's threats are empty - legally. As long as the blogger did not make derogatory remarks about the owner's professional or personal integrity, (or criminal record, or health status etc) - there is absoluntely ZERO liability for posting public records. The lawyer's threat was just that - a threat. . . .his client knows that the blogger would probably be scared into taking the post off rather than hire someone to defend himself if a baseless lawsuit was filed (that said, if someone files a lawsuit with NO merit (which should have been known by the attorney) - the innocent defendant can always retaliate with a "malicious prosecution" action. That guy is the reason attorneys get a bad rap. . .
 
Brian 8/5/2008 8:33:40 PMReply

Looks like this property sold for about $1 million less than purchase price.

Does anyone know if it was foreclosed or if a short sale was successfully negotiated?
 
jpinpb 8/6/2008 12:54:20 PMReply

BMIT has an update. Chuck has a link to the semi-original post.

Apparently an acupuncturist is the new owner. I didn't realize acupuncturists did so well - or will we see this for sale again in a few years for less
 
Erin 8/12/2008 5:23:16 PMReply

From what I can tell through my online research, it sold for $2.5 which paid off the first lender and covered the outstanding property taxes that were due. As to how much was drawn on the 2nd HELOC, if any, or if it was a formal short sale, we may never know.
 
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